WC3Banlist 3.1 beta 210 - last change: Tue, 2007-04-06

[DAB268]

So it's bugged, if it works like that

[moonpriest]

But it's not like it would not work at all.

[Mondo]

It Has been how long since the last beta release is there ever going to be another and is there a topic for ideas on the next one ?

[Vinothek]

Yes, Wc3Banlist is dead, and will not be developed anymore.
At the time, there is a team of a few programmers who are working on a child, called Bancraft.
So far the program is not ready for open beta, but stay tuned, this program will be awesome

[m4sterChief]

Yes, Wc3Banlist is dead, and will not be developed anymore.
At the time, there is a team of a few programmers who are working on a child, called Bancraft.
So far the program is not ready for open beta, but stay tuned, this program will be awesome

Why are we shutting banlist down and starting something new instead of continuing with the wellknown banlist? I certainly seem to have missed something while I was inactive

[Neltharion]

Why are we shutting banlist down and starting something new instead of continuing with the wellknown banlist? I certainly seem to have missed something while I was inactive

Because wc3 banlist's code is a real mess & would require a great amount of ressources (mainly Delphi coders) to be maintained.
The choice has been made to create an open source java alternative: bancraft.

Nelth

[Vinothek]

Why are we shutting banlist down and starting something new instead of continuing with the wellknown banlist? I certainly seem to have missed something while I was inactive

Because wc3 banlist's code is a real mess & would require a great amount of ressources (mainly Delphi coders) to be maintained.
The choice has been made to create an open source java alternative: bancraft.

Nelth

wc3banlist's code isn't only a mess, it even got lost part wise, which would effect in more work to repair it, than just starting a clean and new one
Coding it in java has the advantage of being able to be used on any OS, not only Windows

[Acolmiztli]

Coding it in java has the advantage of being able to be used on any OS, not only Windows

Bancraft doesnt work with mac ^^

[Vinothek]

Sure?
MAC is not able to execute a java program?

[Acolmiztli]

Sure?
MAC is not able to execute a java program?

yes it is, but bancraft's jpcap hugs up on mac's, and jpcap is basicly what bancraft is based on.

[ilaggoodly]

Coding it in java has the advantage of being able to be used on any OS, not only Windows

Bancraft doesnt work with mac ^^

Please don't make such brash statements. We haven't gotten it to work on apples yet because for some reason jpcap refuses to work on 64bit macs. And Bancraft needs at least java 1.6... Unfortunately apple is the party that controls all the java services on a mac and jpcap is not really actively developed anymore, So there are some hurdles to overcome.

I think we are pretty confident someone could get it to work, if they were skilled with java/c++ and familiar with macs, and despite Jobs's statement that Mac is the best platform for developing java, these people seem to be pretty rare

Why are we doing Bancraft and not expanding wc3banlist? Because Knarf did not release the wc3banlist code until the project was welllllllllll underway, wc3banlist also has some copyrighted code that can't be released, and therefore would need to be reprogrammed, and Bancraft also works on Linux, and theoretically on a mac. And Delphi developers are significantly rarer than their java counterparts

[Acolmiztli]

Made that "brash" statement because it true lol, ofc it can work if you code on it long enought, but as i see it, it wont happen in the near future.